cussedness ([info]cussedness) wrote,
@ 2007-05-31 05:55:00
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Entry tags:injustice, strikethrough 2007, warriors for innocence

Possibly my last rant.
Hypocrites for indency

There exists a vigilante group that is called Warriors for Innocence. Today they claimed responsibility for the deletion of 500 journals and communities at LJ.

The fact that most of these deleted journals were fandom sites, incest survivor sites, journals dedicated to literary discussion of the work of nabakov, and in a few cases fashion sites is unimportant to them. What mattered to them was that somewhere out there there might have lurked a pedophile.

At a time in this country when we are busily decrying civilian casualties in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, we have an example of people who have no care for the emotional and literary civilian casualties of an action that carried with it symbolic overtones of the callousness toward the innocent perpetrated in the name of the innocent that we are seeing elsewhere in the world.

What happened is simple.

Two months ago, WFI singled out LJ for action and posted about it on their site. I am certain that the real pedophiles immediately either cleaned up their act or vanished into the shadows. After all WFI had fired a warning shot that gave them plenty of time to get out of Dodge.

As far as I can discern, Six Apart/Livejournal was simply provided with a list of trigger words and then turned loose to do a random search and deletion of all journals and communities that had those words listed either on their posts or their profiles.

And, frankly, that was the only way it might have been achieved, considering how large LJ is.

It was like using a twelve gauge shotgun as a fly swatter.

There are two kinds of people. Those who believe that the end justifies the means. And those who believe that the means must be honorable, otherwise the cost of achieving the end is too great a price to pay.

One of Neitzche's most famous quotations is "Those who hunt monsters, must take care not to become monsters themselves."

By that definition, Warriors for Innocence have joined the ranks of the monsters.

It is not their goal that offends me. It is their way of achieving that goal.

Their gross insensitivity to the rights, needs, and freedoms of so many innocents is a terrible thing.

Blackstone's formulation is at the root of our own democracy and due process of law. It states "better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer."

And yet, here we have an organization (I suspect it is actually a very small group of individuals) who would rephrase that wise and merciful dictum and say instead "better that ten innocent people suffer, than one guilty person go free."

When justice becomes unjust, by what right can anyone ever again call it justice?




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[info]kaolinfire
2007-05-30 10:33 am UTC (link)
well put.

what point of having every pedophile behind bars, if every other adult is in there with them?

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[info]cussedness
2007-05-30 04:59 pm UTC (link)
I phoned and faxed

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[info]queenoftheskies
2007-05-30 12:35 pm UTC (link)
Very good rant. I was following what happened through people who had their LJ's and communities deleted and it was a very tragic event indeed.

I was amazed at the legal gun LJ was under, too, to follow the instructions given to them by WfI and their supposed law enforcement partner.

Very tragic. Very disgusting.

I hope this is not some indication of the future.

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[info]cussedness
2007-05-30 05:00 pm UTC (link)
The people who achieved this are regarded by many of the real anti-pedophile sites as loonies.

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[info]dawnsroadkill
2007-05-31 04:00 am UTC (link)
Why am I not surprised by this somehow?

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[info]halfawake
2007-05-31 04:28 am UTC (link)
I found your journal through following links left by one of my LiveJournal friends. This is totally ridiculous. It's exactly the sort of thing that had me panicked several years ago with LiveJournal's April Fool's day joke. I was planning on buying a permanent account when they went on sale this June, but I don't think LiveJournal is worth paying for anymore. It used to be, but it sure isn't now.

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[info]sovayfox
2007-05-31 04:46 am UTC (link)
mind tossing where you got a few of those? I would love ot see what people are saying about these people now that we have more info on them XD

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[info]halfawake
2007-05-31 06:00 am UTC (link)
I'm not really sure what you're asking for here. Basically, it was LiveJournal's 2003 April Fool's Day joke, they suspended a bunch of people and then made this huge riot about it like people were going to prison. I found out that they were suspended with their consent, but it had me a bit pissed off because it made me worried that if I pissed of the powers that be, I could get suspended just for the heck of it.

You're welcome to read the comments in that entry if you wish, [info]rahaeli has a few comments in there, she works at LiveJoural, as she did back then as well. Though I found it a little odd that she said that it wasn't "LiveJournal" but the abuse team, a volunteer group. It may be a volunteer group indeed, I'll take her word for it since she works at LiveJournal and so would be the one to know, but it doesn't get much more offical than the abuse team.

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[info]cussedness
2007-06-01 04:38 am UTC (link)
I just went there and it is filled with deleted posts and suspended user notices. People were getting kicked off LJ even as they were reacting to what was happening. That's terrible.

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[info]halfawake
2007-06-02 03:58 am UTC (link)
Heh, I suppose that does look pretty bad now that you mention it. In LiveJournal's defense though, I don't remember those being replies from suspended users right when I had posted that entry, so I'm pretty sure the suspension happened quite a while later for something unrelated. Don't know who it was that deleted their comment there, but that's probably something similar.

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[info]arsenicgraffiti
2007-06-01 03:31 am UTC (link)
Right.

So I've been away for the past four days, meaning that I've missed the beginning of the WfI wank. Right now I'm catching up on reading, and I followed several links to this post. Here's a curious thing (don't know if anyone's answered this yet though; still reading on) -- why are they targeting LJ specifically?

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[info]cussedness
2007-06-01 04:35 am UTC (link)
LJ has been on a lot of the right wing and Pedo watchdogs lists as being an "aggressive corporate enabler" for several years now. Most of them can't tell the difference between intellectual discussions and the enabling of illegal acts. Check out [info]liz_marcs

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